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Forest Trust RPC timeout across MPLS

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Hi, I am having trouble setting up a Forest trust between two networks. The issue "seems" to be RPC timeout (i see RPC age-out on firewall) but i'm now wondering if it's actually the LDAP or KErberos thats failing first.

I have read that RPC needs to have the same path outgoing as incoming otherwise you can get SYN-ACK problems (especially through a firewall). So i need to try and work out why it doesnt work. It is laid out something like this.

Network 1 (domain BOB) (server 2008 R2 at domain functional level 2003)

Site1,Site2 and Site3 all connect to each other via Site-To-Site link provided by 3rd party. They all egress at Site1's ISA Firewall in a normal 3 leg perimeter config. All works fine

Network 2 (domain RITA) (server 2008 R2 at domain functional level 2003)

SiteA,B,C and D all connecto to each other over 3rd party MPLS (essentially Gig ethernet)

Site1 and SiteA are on the same premises in the same room. There is a spare NIC on the ISA server. So i configured the ISA with a NIC in the same subnet as SiteA (RITA domain) - ie i plugged RITA into BOB. I configured the ISA for routing. Allow ANY ANY internal to RITA and ANY ANY RITA to internal

I set up conditional forwarders on both domains pointing at each other and can ping everything from the other sites. DNS is working fine. I can RDP across sites to each other's DCs. From a "network" point of view it all looks good (though in the back of my mind i cant rule out the site to site or the MPLS links)

When i try and create the trust it fails very quickly with "Cannot Continue. The trust relationship cannot be created because the following error occurred: The operation failed. The error is: The remote procedure call failed"

I can do a portqry and see all RPC comms looks good

In ISA and another firewall i tried i can see the RPC ageing out. Have tried wireshark but hard to see whats going on

I used another server in the BOB domain and dcpromo'd it to a new domain in that subnet and tried setting up a trust. worked first time

Similarly i did the same at the RITA side and that worked too.

THere are no errors in DNS or the event logs on either side to suggest anything is failing. i tried verbose DNS logs but couldnt really follow them.

Help!! Thanks


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